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International Worker No 239, Saturday, September 13, 1997

Socialist Equality Party gives voice to workers and youth
in devolution debate

The Socialist Equality Party has fought for workers to adopt an internationalist and socialist perspective against nationalism and separatism in both Scotland and Wales.

Leading up to the referendum, the SEP campaigned throughout Wales in Cardiff, Swansea and Newport. Many were pleased that we were campaigning and said they were very confused on the issues and were critical of the fact that there had been very little debate on such an important issue.

Brian, an unemployed factory worker on Sickness Benefit, explained: "I am against it. It is a con. The government claim that they know what the Welsh people want. Well we don't want this. If it goes ahead travelling in Britain will be like going to a foreign country. If we make Wales a separate country it will be like a madhouse. They are not doing this for Wales but doing it for money. As always the rich will get richer and the poor stay ignorant."

A Cardiff postal worker explained that he was voting against: "Wales is just a cheap labour region. We have all these new companies that have invested here, using all these benefits and concessions that the Development Agency and the government is offering them. Once the concessions are over they leave or demand more concessions. It's the workers who lose out. Those who say Wales will be better at competing as a region are not speaking for the workers. They want to offer us off as cheap labour."

A Cardiff housewife commented: "I don't know why people are even considering this proposal. Haven't we learnt anything from Yugoslavia? Where I work in an office, about 30 of the 60 women employed there used to go to Yugoslavia for our holidays in the 1970s and '80s. Look at the tragedy there. This is where devolution will end up. We should have nothing to do with it."

In Scotland, teams have campaigned in Glasgow, Greenock, East Kilbride and Paisley, including factories such as IBM, JVC, Glaciers, Govan and Yarrow shipyards.

Ewan, a student and part-time worker at a Glasgow newspaper distribution centre, said, "I think I will be voting No-No. A Scottish parliament won't reverse social inequality or change the economic structure of society. It will only enhance nationalism.

"If Scotland splits from England, the big companies will use it to play one region off against another to compete for inward investment. It will also lead to the splitting up of social services. It will make it harder to distribute the wealth of society as a whole, as the vast areas will become more poverty stricken whilst wealth will be concentrated in just a few pockets. The advances that were made in welfare will be reversed and industry will be streamlined further for the forces of profit. It will be more like the American version where there is no social safety net.

"Europe is being geared up as a free trade bloc to compete with the Far East and North America. This will further facilitate the movement of the transnationals from one region to another in search of the cheapest labour. Wages in Scotland are incredibly cheap compared to the rest of Europe. There is a lot of unemployment and people are in need of work.

"I have friends who work for the American computer manufacturing company, Compaq, at their factory in Erskine. The day-time pay of an assembly line worker at the factory is only around £3.50 to £4.00 an hour. The work-force is largely casualised. They are hired by employment agencies who call you when you are required to work. I work for a major newspaper distributor and I am on similar conditions.

"I think if you put up a new border it will make it more difficult to have a unified movement of workers. The real division is not along national lines but class lines. Until you address that there won't be any social improvements.

"It seems to me with Scottish Militant Labour's position that they are saying you can't achieve the goal, so lets change the goal to something which is seen as more possible. But socialism can't be carried out on a national perspective. It has to be international otherwise it can't work."

Jane Cook, a housewife was born in England. She said, "I'm not in favour of devolution, I think it is very divisive. It has not been a debate. I find it very anti-English, all this flag waving. As someone who aspires to live in a multi-cultural society, I find it offensive. It's all about a nationalist idea of what it's like to be Scottish. All these blue and white flags have emerged all over the place. The politicians are trying to put ideas into peoples heads. Among the people there is not some big outcry for nationalism.

"We are living in a time when everything is becoming integrated, yet now it's all about everyone getting their own parliament. I fear for what is going to happen not just to English people, but also what is going to happen to ethnic minorities."


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